Legislature(2007 - 2008)BELTZ 211

05/01/2007 01:30 PM Senate LABOR & COMMERCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 136 DENTAL HYGIENISTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ HB 182 OFFERING PROMOTIONAL CHECKS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 182(JUD) Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 155 REGULATION OF WATER/WASTEWATER UTILITIES TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Postponed>
+= SB 118 PLASTIC BAG FEE; ESTABLISH LITTER FUND TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 121 WORKERS' COMPENSATION RECORDS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 121(L&C)am Out of Committee
         SB 118-PLASTIC BAG FEE; ESTABLISH LITTER FUND                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:50:05 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR ELLIS announced SB 118 to be up for consideration.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
PAULA CADIENTE, staff  to Senator Elton, sponsor of  SB 118, said                                                               
they look forward to working  with the committee over the interim                                                               
on this issue.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:52:01 PM                                                                                                                    
HILDEGARD  REGELE,   Ph.D.,  Affiliate  Assistant   Professor  of                                                               
Literature,  University   of  Alaska  Southeast,  said   she  was                                                               
representing  "Turning the  Tides."  She said  the Juneau  Empire                                                               
published  a  couple  of  letters to  the  editor  regarding  the                                                               
"idiocy" of  SB 118. The  arguments put forth circled  around the                                                               
question of paper  or plastic, but they only  proved the writers'                                                               
thorough  internalization  of  the  stock  phrase  one  hears  in                                                               
checking out of a grocery store - "Paper or plastic?"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Which one  is better  is not  an either or  question in  terms of                                                               
convenience and  environmental impact,  she said. SB  118 doesn't                                                               
even  mention paper.  People have  been conditioned  to think  in                                                               
terms  of paper  or plastic,  but  there are  other options  like                                                               
bringing your own canvas bag. The  bill seeks to reduce the often                                                               
mindless and wasteful  use of plastic bags  without condoning the                                                               
often mindless wasteful  use of paper bags,  the manufacturing of                                                               
which involves cutting down trees and polluting the environment.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. REGELE said plastic bags  are not truly recyclable. According                                                               
to the Algalita  Marine Research Foundation, only 3  to 5 percent                                                               
of plastic is currently recycled.  Recycling plastic is different                                                               
from recycling other products like  glass or aluminum that can be                                                               
made back  into the products  they were before. In  the recycling                                                               
process  which  involves  heat,  plastics  molecular  composition                                                               
changes; its  quality degrades  and the  range of  its usefulness                                                               
shrinks.  In addition,  virgin  plastic is  cheaper  to use  than                                                               
recycled  plastic;  so  most manufacturers  opt  for  the  virgin                                                               
materials. Most recycled plastics  become clothing or carpet that                                                               
goes to  the landfill once  the second  use is finished.  Some of                                                               
the  lower quality  plastic that  has been  recycled is  actually                                                               
shipped to  Asia where  it goes  into landfills.  She emphasized,                                                               
"Non-biodegradable  plastic  bags  are  a  persistent  source  of                                                               
pollution  and a  danger to  the  environment in  general and  to                                                               
marine  animals  in  particular and  an  unjustifiable  waste  of                                                               
resources."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. REGELE  concluded her testimony  saying the solution  to this                                                               
serious problem  is to  cut back  on the use  of the  bags before                                                               
they  become lethal  litter.  A  fee on  plastic  bags will  help                                                               
hinder  further  mindless and  wasteful  use  of these  bags  and                                                               
inspire  us  all to  carry  reusable  cloth  bags or  other  non-                                                               
disposable containers  into the store  with us in which  to carry                                                               
home our still over-packaged grocery items.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
RAYMOND  PADDOCK  III,  Environmental Specialist,  Tlingit  Haida                                                               
Central Counsel, supported  SB 118. He said he  manages a website                                                               
called Solid  Waste Alaska Network  (SWAN) that is  geared toward                                                               
providing environmental  information to Alaskans in  all regions.                                                               
The website has  a page that shows tribes and  communities how to                                                               
create  ordinances on  banning plastic  bags. Thirty  communities                                                               
have  created  have already  created  ordinances  because of  the                                                               
environmental  mess plastic  bags  create and  to protect  animal                                                               
habitat. Like  most citizens, he  said, he is  not in favor  of a                                                               
tax, but he  supported one that would encourage  people to reduce                                                               
the use of plastic bags.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DR.  CHRIS KRENZ  said  he  works for  Oceana  and  is the  North                                                               
Pacific Project Manager. Oceana  is an international organization                                                               
that  works  to  protect  the  world's oceans.  He  said  he  was                                                               
testifying on  behalf of Jim Ayers  who could not be  here today.                                                               
Oceana strongly supports  SB 118 and its concept that  a fee will                                                               
reduce the  number of  plastic bags  that end  up going  into the                                                               
oceans. The  money generated from  the fee  could be used  in the                                                               
Marine Debris  and Recycling Fund  that could further  reduce the                                                               
pollution making  our coasts  more vibrant by  making it  a clean                                                               
place to live.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Among the reasons to reduce the  use of plastic bags is that they                                                               
mimic jelly fish,  which other animals eat - such  as sea turtles                                                               
whose  numbers are  seriously declining  worldwide. Plastic  bags                                                               
also don't  break down;  instead they break  up into  smaller and                                                               
smaller pieces thus allowing smaller  animals to accidentally eat                                                               
them. Plastics absorb and concentrate  pollutants and they end up                                                               
accumulating  throughout  the food  chain  down  to the  smallest                                                               
organisms.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:59:19 PM                                                                                                                    
DAN  STICKEL,  Economist,  Department  of Revenue,  said  he  had                                                               
prepared  an  overview  of  the  fiscal  note  and  would  answer                                                               
questions. There were no questions.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
BOB SYLVESTER, representing  himself, said he is  from Juneau and                                                               
strongly supported SB  118 for all the  previously stated reasons                                                               
and more.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
BILL ZENTER,  representing himself, said  he has lived  in Juneau                                                               
since 1980 and  is a diver, sailor and kayaker.  He has seen many                                                               
plastic bags floating on the  surface of the ocean, littering the                                                               
shore and  drifting across  the bottom.  He agreed  with previous                                                               
testimony about how  plastic breaks down, becomes  toxic and gets                                                               
consumed  by  all  living  creatures. He  thought  the  sea  lion                                                               
decline  could be  attributed to  plastic bags  in the  ocean. He                                                               
mentioned  that whales  consume them  also and  that makes  their                                                               
population  decline, too.  This would  affect our  economic bases                                                               
here in  Juneau and Alaska. The  tax will help educate  people as                                                               
to alternatives and provide cleanup funds.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR ELLIS said SB 118 would be held over.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BUNDE suggested  this should be a local  issue since most                                                               
of the  written backup was  from Juneau.  If plastic bags  are as                                                               
bad  as people  say, putting  a tax  on them  is going  to be  an                                                               
inconvenient nuisance.  People still  drive SUVs and  are willing                                                               
to pay the price.  "If you really want to get  rid of these, then                                                               
you have to have a bill that bans them, not just taxes."                                                                        
                                                                                                                                

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